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标题: 【提问】关于解牌的正位和逆位? [打印本页]

作者: aya    时间: 2006-5-22 05:12
标题: 【提问】关于解牌的正位和逆位?
<p>我用的是《韦特塔罗》的书</p><p>关于单张牌的占卜还是不太理解。在每张牌的解释里正位和逆位是完全不同的。但是单张牌该怎么解释呢?倾向于正位还是逆位呢?</p><p>请达人赐教!谢谢</p>
作者: 帕尔瓦蒂    时间: 2006-5-22 07:27
<p>那得根据所问问题来进行判断啊,正位就先看书上的说法吧,关于逆位,详情可以参考韦特塔罗63-65页逆位置的解法。虽然在第122页写着:“最简单的塔罗牌算法是只切一张牌”——注意这里哦,它只是说那是最简单的算法,但实际上想要熟练掌握其实是非常困难的。不妨先从圣三角牌阵开始练习吧,反倒容易得多容易得多。(不过记住圣三角是只用大阿卡纳的占卜法哦,一定要看清楚)</p>
作者: tifa_adiru    时间: 2006-5-22 11:14
圣三只用于大阿?我的书里没写啊,还给了几个圣三的实例呢,有小阿的
作者: 帕尔瓦蒂    时间: 2006-5-22 11:32
<p>楼上的用的是哪套牌的书哦?其实一般来说圣三角都是只用大牌进行占卜的状况较多,所以算最适合初学者的……[em09]不过从另一个方面说,其实牌阵都是比较灵活的东西,如果觉得占起来还不错的话,也未尝不可啊~</p>
作者: 帕尔瓦蒂    时间: 2006-5-23 03:49
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>aya</i>在2006-5-23 下午 12:55:46的发言:</b><br/><p><font size="4">我还是不太明白以什么来分辨正位和逆位。这是在牌位里固定的模式还是其他什么?</font></p><p><font size="4">有没有人解释一下?谢谢</font></p></div><p></p>- -当然是看图案啦~~~图案是正的就是正位,逆就是逆位。
作者: aya    时间: 2006-5-23 04:05
<p>啊???????</p><p>是不是洗完牌,摆好牌阵后,翻出来的牌是正的就是正位,图案颠倒过来的就是逆位?</p>
作者: 一千零一夜    时间: 2006-5-23 06:20
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>aya</i>在2006-5-23 上午 04:05:34的发言:</b><br/><p>啊???????</p><p>是不是洗完牌,摆好牌阵后,翻出来的牌是正的就是正位,图案颠倒过来的就是逆位?</p></div><p>如果是以解牌者"你"的角度去解牌<br/>你開出來是正的便是正<br/>對假如問卜者是坐在你對面的<br/>那在對方的角度來看就會看成是反的<br/>如果對塔羅牌不認識的人會對你說"這張是正,那張是反的"概念會混淆<br/>因為在他眼見的是和你所說的調轉<br/>也有情況就是記者訪問時因他多是在你的對面<br/>而當他為牌陣拍照時<br/>也會有同樣的問題<br/>令其他讀者會有誤會<br/><br/>所以如果判定正反<br/>是首先要由那個角度去看<br/>當然~解牌的是你<br/>當然是順著你的眼去看會舒服~<br/>所以我多是依自己的角度來看及解牌<br/>頂多會和對方解釋一下正反的問題就可以<br/>因為<br/>如果對方是初學的<br/>他會接受這些原因<br/>如果對方是老手<br/>也更會知道筒中便利</p>
作者: aya    时间: 2006-5-23 12:55
<p><font size="4">我还是不太明白以什么来分辨正位和逆位。这是在牌位里固定的模式还是其他什么?</font></p><p><font size="4">有没有人解释一下?谢谢</font></p>
作者: jpg    时间: 2006-5-28 12:08
<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>aya</i>在2006-5-22 上午 05:12:45的发言:</b><br/><p>我用的是《韦特塔罗》的书</p><p>关于单张牌的占卜还是不太理解。在每张牌的解释里正位和逆位是完全不同的。但是单张牌该怎么解释呢?倾向于正位还是逆位呢?</p><p>请达人赐教!谢谢</p></div><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">首先想说明,不是所有牌也会使用逆牌的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">而当你所使用的牌,原著人对逆位加以特别的意思意,你个人使用时亦可不使用逆牌。</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">我想要清楚一点是使塔罗牌并不是花式表演,在未太了解牌义前,越是多加程序</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">如开大型牌阵,加入空白牌</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">,</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">使用反牌</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,便会令自己不太明白在做什么</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">很多外国的大师也不使用逆位的</span><font face="新細明體"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">[em17])</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">如果你还在初学的阶段,你又觉得单牌占卜阵</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">(one card spread)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">已开始熟练,不妨学习使用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">3</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">张牌的牌阵</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">(3 cards spread),3</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">张牌的牌阵会给你更多的资料呢</span><font face="新細明體"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;">~</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">如果你真的想了解逆位意思,而对西方玄学未有太大了解,个人觉得最单的方法是</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">1.</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">把逆位牌所带出的主题视为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">"</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">未解决</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">"</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的问题,所以要回到学习上一张牌的课题。</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">例</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">:</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">如牌阵中出了逆位的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">ace of wands</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,问者则要回到学习</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">10 of wands</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的课题</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">2.</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">把正位和逆为设定为不同</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">issue</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">的问题,当出现逆位时以该方面来理解,如下</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">元素</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">正位</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">逆位</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">火</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">工作</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">/</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">事业</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">直觉</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">水</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">关系</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">情绪</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">风</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">想法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">态度</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">土</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">金钱</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">健康</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">例</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">:</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">当牌阵中出了正位</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">ace of wands</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,可代表问者现处于事业的起步点,当出现逆位的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">ace of wands</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">,可代表问者的直觉能唤醒问者对问题的理解。</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></font></p><p><font size="3"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">最后想说明一下对正位和逆位所设定的意思是有很多的方法,学习所有方法并不是最明智的方法。要知道塔罗牌本身是一个和自己潜意识</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">(</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">或</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun;"><font face="新細明體">higher-self)</font></span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN;">沟通的工具,了解不同方法后,从而选取最适合自己的方式才是明智之举[em31]。</span></font></p>




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